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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 8:41 pm 
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Dave's blood work came back nornal so no clues there

he is finally starting to feel better

hope the rest of you get well real soon!!!!


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 8:56 pm 
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Boca Bosco wrote:
This has turned out to be a serious thing for many of us.
Shawn (Whyweigh) is in ICU.
Please contribute your Doc/Lab results here. We must get to the bottom of this.
I myself may have to suck it up and go to ER because I've actually gotten worse that I was. GF trying to get me to take an ice bath....I just can't.
My shivers come in waves but this afternoon I shook like a leaf for almost 2hrs nonstop...when it finally subsided I literally collapsed from exhaustion like I just ran a marathon


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Shawn barely made it back. They had to take him off the plane on a stretcher. He is in the ICU now and stable. If you are really sick go see a doctor


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http://jamcruise.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8942


Didn't Shawn have a severe case of bronchitis before the cruise?

http://jamcruise.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8584

This can develop into pneumonia. Both can be very bad when chronic.

With so many passengers, multiple pathogens are likely (inevitable?), and multiple levels of infection (some shrug it off, others get varying stages of malaise). Some only get a sniffle and don't get sick for weeks. The flu works this way, too.

Antibiotics won't help viral diseases of course.

A lot of people will get flu-like illnesses when not sleeping (or sleeping very little). I'm more immediately concerned with this burn symptom since that's visible and another friend of mine also has this. It looks to me like a chemical burn (got one of those myself in the lab once or twice)..

-Phrazz

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Antibacterial antibiotics will do nothing to help get rid of the virus, and giving antibacterial antibiotics when there is a viral cold will likely do nothing except help the bacteria in the nose and throat become resistant -- which makes the next bacterial infection much harder to treat. I never give antibiotics to someone who has only a cold, unless there seems to me to be a very good chance that he or she may develop a bacterial infection on top of the cold -- or unless there is clearly a bacterial infection already.


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i, for one, was sent home today with some croupy, phlegmy, foggy headed, achey chest cold.

pretty nasty stuff.

tried to push through to get all of my commitments in order before the big move... but i just cant burn the candle on both ends through this one.

plus, who wants to infect 200+ 4th and 5th graders?? poor babies...

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Damnation! I've been feeling pretty alright until today. I've had avery slight cough, but it's turned into sneezes and shit! My ass is going to bed now!

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I don't want to be a scare monger, but we should know this:

Brazil: 340 on cruise ship sickened; cause unknown
By Bradley Brooks
Associated Press Writer / January 8, 2009

RIO DE JANEIRO, Brazil—Hundreds of passengers on a Swiss-owned cruise ship were stricken with severe vomiting and diarrhea caused by a mysterious ailment, Brazilian health officials said Thursday.

At least 340 victims have been sickened on the MSC Sinfonia, now docked in Salvador, Bahia, according to a spokeswoman for the National Agency for Sanitary Vigilance. She spoke on condition of anonymity, in line with department policy.

The illness didn't appear to be life-threatening and most passengers were recovering Thursday.

The agency said later in a statement that an inspection found problems with the amount of chlorine in the ship's drinking water and with the storage of some perishable food items, notably mayonnaise.

But officials said they would not know what caused the illness until they wrap up their investigation.

The health agency said the outbreak was under control, and the victims were being interviewed and treated on board the ship. Most fell ill on Monday and Tuesday.

The vessel is owned by MSC Cruises, a division of the Geneva-based Mediterranean Shipping Co. An MSC Cruises spokeswoman in Sao Paulo declined to comment.

The Sinfonia left Rio de Janeiro on Friday with 2,000 passengers, mostly Brazilians.

Health officials gave approval for the ship to return to Rio, but ordered cruise officials to notify authorities immediately should new cases of illness break out.


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Well, I haven't had any spectacular GI issues, so I don't think I picked up a norovirus:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norovirus


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:(
We have 2 more right here. I started getting it on Tuesday, felt tired with nausea and the spins. I got through the last day on malox and ibuprofin. Luckily, i was able to enjoy myself. Bad ride home.... My wife was sick a couple of hours after we got back. Still sickly, not as bad. I hope we're getting better.
MSC had another boat sick?!? This seems weird.


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Hey everyone Ame' here. Just wondering if any vegetarians or vegans have ended up sick? Trying to determine if it was something in the meat or water.

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I have most of my voice back, but it was not from being sick. I would blame the Cap't and coke I was drinking just before I fell out every night. Or the just Cap't on the last night.

Before the cruise, or even a fest I get my body ready. I put down a gallon of OJ the week and a half before I left for the cruise. I drink a lot of water. I mean a lot. It's almost the only thing I drink on most days. Yes, my piss is clear. Sleep sleep sleep. I tride to get as much sleep as I could get in before I left and got it when I could on the boat. After the cruise I went into a comma at Kev and Erins (thanks for the bed). I only got up to piss, get more water, or eat until Galactic on Saturday. Then back to sleep.

Not that all of this would have fought off everything you guys have, but it's worth doing for sure.

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.... All I know is the monkeys I smuggled onboard are doing OK ....

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i got some wicked food poisoning or something the 2nd night of the cruise...was up all night spouting out both ends; but recovered in time to go diving in belize and then i was all good rest of the cruise.

slept like the dead the first 2 days off the boat, but i've had a funky head/chest cold thing the last 2 days. could be alot worse from reading this thread!


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Based on the % of people on here who have some flu/fever, this thing has got to be widespread amongst all J Cruisers.
I feel lucky.
OK, now everyone get off your computers so I can get some work done, eh?


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no shit like 80% of posters came down with something.

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Cap'n SloMo wrote:
but recovered in time to go diving in belize and then i was all good rest of the cruise.


oi, I was wondering if anyone did the dive trip. Belize is by far my favorite dive destination, and I waverred so hard about signing up - while I have gone diving after 2 hours of sleep and parting all night before, it isn't quite ideal. I ended up deciding I wouldn't be able to handle two dives - I hope you had an AMAZING time!?

And there's definately two different things we're coming down with, the flu like bronchial thing, and then the food poisoning for those that are voiding from both ends.


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longhairedfreak007 wrote:
no shit like 80% of posters came down with something.

90% of Jamcruisers didn't get enough sleep (remember, "sleep is the enemy")

That Rio report sounds like food/water poisoning.


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